Compared to the success Marvel Studios have had with their movies, DC Films is in shambles. They’ve produced some great movies, both outside their shared cinematic universe – like Christopher Nolan’s Aquaman – but they’ve also produced some real stinkers. Those movies – the ones that put Ryan Reynolds in a CGI suit or had Batman and Superman putting their differences aside because their moms have the same name – speak for themselves.

There’s one thing that all movies based on DC Comics characters have in common, however: they’re all filled with mistakes. Whether they’re errors in franchise continuity, egregious departures from the source material, or simply gaping plot holes, DC movies are full of mistakes. Not even Nolan’s critically acclaimed Batman movies are above the occasional continuity error or plot hole. In fact, some of them will change the way you look at the movies entirely – some of them are fundamental flaws with the script that the whole movie is built on.

With the DCEU currently undergoing some restructuring, we could start to see less of these mistakes. At the very least, they’ll curb the continuity errors as they focus less on it being a shared universe and more on making movies that are, y’know, good. Without further ado, 25 Times DC Movies Made No Sense (But Fans Didn’t Notice).

Man of Steel – It Can't Be Night-time Everywhere

In Man of Steel, General Zod hijacks the world’s TV stations to warn everyone about their impending doom. It’s a scary situation to be in, especially when it’s the middle of the night. But thanks to the Earth being round and the Sun only being on one side of it, it can’t be night-time everywhere in the world, as Zack Snyder depicts it.

This is an example of a scene where the most cinematic version was chosen over the most realistic version – but if it’s so obviously unrealistic, then it fails to be cinematic, so it’s a paradox.

Batman Begins – The Monorail Was Pointless

Near the end of Batman Begins, Batman sends Commissioner Gordon to knock out one of the monorail’s beams to make sure it never gets to Wayne Tower, and then the Caped Crusader grapples up onto the monorail to fight Ra’s al Ghul.

But if he sent Gordon to knock out the monorail, why did he have to grapple up there at all? Also, why didn’t Ra’s just start at Wayne Tower if that was the plan? He claimed to have “infiltrated every level of Gotham’s infrastructure,” so why couldn’t he just let himself in?

Superman Returns – Lois Gets Clark's Weight Wrong

In one scene in Superman Returns, Lois mentions that Clark is 6’4” and 125 lbs. Now, we can gather that she meant to say 225 lbs, but since she didn’t say that and she said 125 lbs and it made it into the final cut of the film, this is pretty annoying.

6’4” is pretty tall, so if someone of that height was 125 lbs, they’d be as skinny as a pole. They’d barely be able to stand up without fainting. And we’re expected to believe that’s how much a super-strong alien with the nickname “Man of Steel” weighs?

Aquaman – How Did He Get Those Tattoos?

Jason Momoa turned Aquaman from the laughing stock of the DC Comics universe into one of the franchise's coolest characters. The creative team behind the DC Extended Universe were asking a lot of him, since he had to make a fish-man named Arthur Curry with mostly useless powers seem cool. But somehow, he did it. He pulled it off.

How did he do it? Well, part of it is the tattoos all over his body. But the sad thing is, they don’t make sense. He once mentioned that human metal can’t pierce his skin. If human metal can’t pierce his skin, how did a tattoo needle cover him in permanent ink?

Batman v Superman – The Dirt Moving Was Meaningless

At the end of Batman v Superman, after Doomsday terminates Superman and they have a whole funeral for him, we start to see the dirt on his grave move, suggesting he’s about the burst out like a zombie. It was a big moment that geared us up for the next movie.

But the beginning of Justice League ignores this as he’s shown to be mourned by the world – until the heroes bring him back to life. The movement of the dirt worked as nothing more than a hint that Superman wasn’t gone forever – it had nothing to do with his rebirth.

The Dark Knight Rises – How Did Batman Escape The Blast Radius?

At the end of The Dark Knight Rises, Batman flies a nuclear bomb out into the ocean to save Gotham and then becomes a mythical figure. But then Alfred sees Bruce Wayne with Selina Kyle a while later in Florence, which is an ambiguous hint that maybe he survived and retired from Caped Crusader duties.

If he survived the explosion, how did he manage to escape the blast radius in time? Christopher Nolan left the ending of his trilogy open for each fan to interpret for themselves – but strictly in of the laws of physics, the real ending is that he was wiped out.

Wonder Woman – Only Love Can Truly Save The World...?

Towards the end of Wonder Woman, Steve Trevor’s demise (well, supposed demise – Chris Pine has somehow turned up in the sequel) inspires Diana Prince to learn the lesson that “only love can truly save the world.” That seems to be the moral message of the movie as a whole, too.

But this doesn’t change anything about her actual plan. She still goes right ahead and takes Ares’ life, which she always intended to do in the first place. Did she actually learn anything from Steve’s sacrifice? It doesn’t seem like it.

Suicide Squad – They’d Be No Match For General Zod

In Suicide Squad, Amanda Waller’s justification for putting together Task Force X – a team of psychopathic villains to be released from Arkham Asylum to do the government’s dirty work – is that they’ll need to be prepared if someone like General Zod ever comes to Earth again.

This is a reference to the events of Man of Steel, in which Zod threatened Earth, and Batman v Superman, in which Superman supposedly lost his life. But there isn’t a single character in Suicide Squad that would be a match for someone as powerful as Zod. Where did Waller get that idea from?

Green Lantern – How Did No One Else Figure Out Parallax Could Be Eliminated By A Star?

There is a lot wrong with Ryan Reynolds’ CGI-heavy Green Lantern film. The many, many plot holes make up just one of the movie’s litany of crimes against entertainment.

There are a lot of Green Lanterns in the movie, and yet none of them figured out their mortal enemy Parallax could be eliminated by getting pushed into a star until Hal Jordan of Earth came along and had the bright idea to throw him into the Sun. There are a lot of stars in outer space – could no one else have thought of this?

The Dark Knight – The Joker Just Sort Of Leaves Dent’s Fundraiser

In one of The Dark Knight’s most memorable scenes, the Joker crashes Harvey Dent’s fundraiser with the intention of kidnapping or even terminating Dent. This is why Bruce Wayne knocks Dent unconscious and puts him in a closet. He plans to eject the Joker from the party, saving Dent, but he gets distracted when the Joker sends Rachel falling to certain doom. Bruce jumps out the window to save her and they land on the roof of a car.

But just because the movie cuts away, it doesn’t mean the situation’s over. What happened after that? The Joker’s still upstairs holding all the guests, including Dent, hostage. Did he just take his party bag and leave? That wasn’t the plan. He could still have taken Dent.