We are never going to get anywhere bashing the past movies, it's all a learning curve, respect the art form, just like comics etc.

I will see Superman and hopefully James and Zack team up to create something wonderful moving forward pleasing the bulk of fans, unity is important, the multiverse is how it should be, giving everyone a bit of something they all love and notice and not rejecting the other because they don't notice or understand what is being shown to them!

The Gunn fans and Snyder fans need to start respecting one another asap if DC is to shine brighter than ever before, Marvel as well! ❤👍

yeah gets his powers and healing ability from the sun, yet Gunn chooses All Star where he's dying from "too much sun" and mix that with Kingdom Come for costume yet uses a "young" Superman and got rid of a guy for being "too old", nonsense that was ALWAYS the plan and makes no sense either as Superman is dying and dies and is much older in KC not to mention WHAT Earth are we dealing with here!? Supergirl as well!!! The TRUTH always comes out and proper DC fans, cast, directors etc who have all been scorned, mocked and humiliated so that the "Marvel" directors can do silly for years and have done and all the backstabbing and lies so that the "DCU" can be born, all want JUSTICE!

THAT is being a REAL CB fan, not a "Gunn" fan 1st, who would accept and be part of all that negativity for years, being disgraceful towards actors, directors, producers, all involved in DCEU Snyderverse and fans who only wanted a DC Universe built, not torn to pieces by LOUD kids and activists on X.

So yeah OF COURSE some fans are going to fight back, yet the best Gunn fans can say or do ALWAYS revolves around Snyder, never anyone or anything else, WHY? Because they are either knowingly or unknowingly part of all the sabotaging over the years! Disgusting and disgraceful, as CB fans who "should" believe in Truth and Justice, you should all know better instead of attacking people just because they might like something a bit different from you!

DC fans need United NOT Divided, as that's all that's been happening since MOS/BVS because Disney/Marvel didn't want the competition!

Good 8 comic series, but didn't need the drinking or swearing tbh.

It irks me that Gunn will do a Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow movie, yet Superman is like a mish mash of Elseworlds as well?

I can't be the only one who is like ok Crisis on Infinite Earths lets establish there was a multiverse now theres not, then there is with Infinite Crisis 52 etc, new 52 kinda threw away lore, DC Rebirth brought it bk mixed in new 52 and so on.

So lets do some of this timeline lore PROPERLY!

WB wanted to copy MCU so badly yet only Superman/WW got a decent Origin Story to build from, but before more DCEU building it all got torn to pieces because of "Elseworlds", "Too Dark", "Not comic Accurate", like what? DC is VERY Malleable let them build the Universe first THEN decide, not ONE movie in then some people complain so WB trashes everything making it silly and incoherent so they get Marvel directors in and what do they do? Make it WORSE..but it's ok it has some silly moments to laugh at and added some Color!

DCU doesn't seem like it knows what it wants to be just choosing "best of" Elseworlds and mashing them...that some hated before but LOVE now just because Gunn is doing it? Hypocrites.

It's crazy they said no to DC Black Label movies, yet WHAT are they using? Elseworlds is supposed to be just that ELSEWORLDS, if you want to create a DCU, Stick to the mainline and events and give the characters PROPER MODERN SOLO MOVIES to introduce them to the lore, but start from something that explains COIE or something that explains there was a multiverse then do the Batman Year One etc, doesn't have to be like Nolan, either adapt it EXACTLY or do flashbacks like MOS.

None of what Gunn is doing makes sense to me. You want to use the Kingdom Come costume ADAPT KINGDOM COME! Want to use lots of All Star Superman? ADAPT ALL STAR SUPERMAN.

Why not because Supergirl is getting the treatment, yet Superman gets a mish mash like before, yet Gunn has had YEARS to get this right!

James Gunn will just do it off the top of his head anyway, as long as it's silly & goofy the kids will like it because they liked GOTG, right guys, right? Yawn. *sigh

I just don't get the Gunn fans hes way more Marvel than DC, his DC lore is obviously only silver/bronze age era stuff as a kid if anything & all he knows is silly. I mean this Superman movie which SHOULDN'T have been called just Superman as hes wearing a kind if Kingdom Come costume, yet Kingdom come Superman is OLDER, yet Corenswet looks TOO YOUNG and why did he get rid of Cavill? Yep TOO OLD!!! The Hypocrisy is CRAZY right now!

Gunn has stated he thinks Superheroes are dumb, he thinks Cosplay is stupid & dumb, disses past DC movies, disses young little boys, disses Superman/DCEU/Cavill fans and Absolutely HUMILIATED the man, how is that being a good DC Leader? Yeah it AINT!

Honestly wake up Gunn fans the man doesn't like anything that's not from his mind & constantly disses fans and if you believe his recent photo with Snyder wasn't a dig then you are naive as two people don't think of exact same idea at exactly the same time & go oh this will break internet & get some fans hopes up & annoy others etc, who does that? Gunn that's who, just look at his grin like FU to fans, Snyder just smiles like a much more honest down to earth guy & before Gunn fans start, sure I thought Snyders stuff was better more lore, tad dark at 1st but had its reasons but i also like Donner Burton Singer Nolan Wan etc & Marvel directors like Raimi Singer Favreau Russo Bros etc, so all this cultist nonsense is crazy considering how CRAZY the Gunn fans have been acting to SABOTAGE supposedly the DC lore they love? Most of you are Disney/MCU fans that's why!

Gunn will ruin all your favourite DC Superheroes because he only sees silly in them, he TELLS you this & yet you still him because of some comedy & aw cute little animals?

So what about the comics lore?

At least they are trying to give out some Superhero info to read & as a Huge Superman fan & CB fan I appreciate their efforts.

I get it though the movies really need to stick to lore & pay attention, something James Gunn doesn't, but pretends to his fans he does, which is a huge problem & why we are in this mess just now & by the time most Gunn fans grow up & realise what is going on or what he has been doing it will be Too Late & Years later, they don't listen to grievances from other fans as the mainstream media & other Gunn fans with an agenda to help Gunn has put up a forecfield & "attack" anyone who has grievances & call them "cultists" etc which is very Hypocritical & naive, which is only helping Marvel pull ahead even further & I'm a Marvel fan, but also a Huge DC fan too, I love Superman, but seeing him treated the way past cast/character have been treated is just nasty, nor is this new Superman movie getting good careful treatment either just cheap n nasty look made from Gunns mind of GOTG & do whatever he wants, yet has now had multiple reshoots because WBD want more serious now? like we had in MOS/BVS?

So WHAT'S THE POINT IN THIS? Crazy yet Snyder still gets all the fault? Lots of fans need to do more research into EVERYTHING that has happened since MOS, the DCEU announcement BVS etc, what was going on at Marvel to push Civil war fast, Gunn at Marvel exec prod'r on Avengers, Whedon at DC who cut out Darkseid so that his buddy can push Thanos 1st, what Snyder was planning yet Whedon gave all that info to Gunn etc, all which looked much better imo if given half a chance & if you watch Avengers IW/EG that's very close just different characters etc.

So yeah DCEU was sabotaged & the Marvel guys DON'T have a secret sauce they just took Snyders ideas & used Marvels comic lore instead, yet could have chosen ANYTHING but chose to go Civil War then Thanos just like BVS then Darkseid! I Smell a rat!